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Day Of The Diesel

FP -- Diesel engines on average offer about 25% greater fuel efficiency than a traditional combustion engine, or roughly the same amount of a hybrid, says George Magliano, IHS Global Insight analyst. But the extra value comes in the selling price. The average diesel-powered vehicle will cost about $2,000 more than a traditional internal combustion engine, while a hybrid variation might cost upwards of $7,000, depending on the make and model, he says.

The diesel option on the Grand Cherokee in 2008 cost $6,000 extra, but the resale value of the diesel Grand Cherokee commands up to a $10,000 premium to the gas model today.

Mercedes-Benz, for example, estimates that between 75% and 85% of its customers will choose diesel when given both options.

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Submitted Feb 26, 2012 By: Jumpmaster82

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vjs3 Champion Author Denver Posts:2,521 Points:645,915 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 3, 2012 5:53:31 PM Ignore vjs3 Report Abuse Ever try and breathe behind a diesel?!?
JamesCalvin Champion Author Lancaster Posts:3,171 Points:515,780 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Mar 3, 2012 4:00:20 PM Ignore JamesCalvin Report Abuse Lets drive diesels!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 3:07:36 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse diesel from plant oil is better than having to rely on diesel from instable nations such as Nigeria. Not too many places left to find light sweet crude that can be refined well into good quality diesel. Esp. ULSD which is now required thanks to the GWB rules (one reason diesel prices have shot up and making everything in this country more expensive).
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,917 Points:2,341,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 9:25:25 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Day Of The Diesel - a quality built diesel engine is not like the engines from the past. Diesel engines from the past, smoked and stank very bad and now they are better built and cleaner running. Diesel has more energy (BTU’s) in the fuel and will get higher MPG than gasoline or CNG. The sulfur has been removed from diesel, so it does not stink like it did before. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using ‘other’ forms of transportation to help lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
OriginalBudman Champion Author Barrie Posts:11,052 Points:2,245,725 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 8:21:53 AM Ignore OriginalBudman Report Abuse ok
numbers Champion Author North Dakota Posts:2,801 Points:850,040 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 4:48:19 AM Ignore numbers Report Abuse Great
Amtrgas Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,678 Points:1,618,095 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:26:53 PM Ignore Amtrgas Report Abuse No matter what way you move government does everything to undermine good judgement. Diesel use to be inexpensive, now it is the most expensive fuel around.
ammamama13 Rookie Author California Posts:96 Points:68,285 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:22:31 PM Ignore ammamama13 Report Abuse it's all about greed!
ammamama13 Rookie Author California Posts:96 Points:68,285 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:21:59 PM Ignore ammamama13 Report Abuse remember when diesel was cheaper than regular gas!
mikaye Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,814 Points:861,410 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:13:09 PM Ignore mikaye Report Abuse disel fuel is more expensive.
heartbroken2010 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:4,324 Points:893,535 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:06:40 PM Ignore heartbroken2010 Report Abuse just as pricey as reg gas.
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,935 Points:828,705 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:06:32 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse Diesel cost more than regular gas so...
LSU_TIGERS_dmb Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,712 Points:617,130 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:04:29 PM Ignore LSU_TIGERS_dmb Report Abuse Compare a Mercedes to a jeep in resale. Now that's funny.
miser709 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,268 Points:1,066,325 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:04:02 PM Ignore miser709 Report Abuse Diesel exhaust smells bad. I hate it.
96sc1 Champion Author El Paso Posts:8,517 Points:1,367,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:59:27 PM Ignore 96sc1 Report Abuse I might by a diesel
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,337 Points:1,537,705 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:57:05 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Is the only way to make more diesel available be by refining more gasoline ?
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,543 Points:1,767,935 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:55:34 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Diesel get the job done. With diesel usually considerably higher per gallon the mileage must be higher to make it affordable. Probably will get into the US market in a big way -- if it is affordable.
joekayak All-Star Author Massachusetts Posts:833 Points:720,080 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:54:43 PM Ignore joekayak Report Abuse Between the upfront cost of diesel engines and the higher cost of fuel it would take you many years to make up the difference.
DozenSpeed Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,293 Points:391,550 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:53:59 PM Ignore DozenSpeed Report Abuse Liberals hate diesel. Diesel is taxed higher. Production cost of gasoline have dropped, while refiners now have to scrub nearly all the sulphur out diesel.
Ethan777OH Veteran Author Ohio Posts:270 Points:25,720 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:53:21 PM Ignore Ethan777OH Report Abuse give and take
tippybuddy Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,523 Points:207,740 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:52:46 PM Ignore tippybuddy Report Abuse although pricey you get good mileage for the price
jwkycola All-Star Author Columbia Posts:817 Points:529,400 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:51:05 PM Ignore jwkycola Report Abuse Sounds good but still too expensive.
ty58 Veteran Author Akron Posts:320 Points:481,530 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:50:02 PM Ignore ty58 Report Abuse diesel cost more than gas even though it's cheaper to make so the profit margin is higher for diesel than gas
krista0511 Sophomore Author San Diego Posts:121 Points:109,810 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:46:46 PM Ignore krista0511 Report Abuse Diesel costs too much
sydb7 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,542 Points:1,916,730 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:45:25 PM Ignore sydb7 Report Abuse really?
firenrn Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,108 Points:443,880 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:45:00 PM Ignore firenrn Report Abuse Diesel is now comparable now.
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,935 Points:828,705 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:43:18 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse Diesel cost more than regular gas so...
leraar2 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,744 Points:783,680 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:41:41 PM Ignore leraar2 Report Abuse my 1967 car already had 32mpg. reason: it had 10-1 COMPRESSION. no fancy computer crap. elementary physics, baby.
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,212 Points:814,770 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:38:26 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse diesel has come a long way...more so than ethanol!
CorvairHaven Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,334 Points:1,449,940 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:38:15 PM Ignore CorvairHaven Report Abuse It used to be that diesel was cheaper...
antie58 Veteran Author New York Posts:348 Points:64,180 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:36:49 PM Ignore antie58 Report Abuse i always wanted a diesel in my minivan. europeans have them.
sit Champion Author Cleveland Posts:5,185 Points:1,928,945 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:33:54 PM Ignore sit Report Abuse ok
Sundarakhemesi Sophomore Author Montreal Posts:227 Points:96,995 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:33:48 PM Ignore Sundarakhemesi Report Abuse o K
95Vette Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,510 Points:628,880 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:33:36 PM Ignore 95Vette Report Abuse I remember the time when diesel was half the price of gas.
Taurus1 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,115 Points:1,670,700 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:31:37 PM Ignore Taurus1 Report Abuse Diesel gas is not so cheap.
hagar2935 Veteran Author Nevada Posts:315 Points:85,155 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:27:22 PM Ignore hagar2935 Report Abuse Meanwhile Diesel prices are soaring by huge amounts every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! INFLATION IS SOON TO FOLLOW....... because everything requires transportation!
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,800 Points:1,426,750 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:25:41 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse There isn't enough diesel in a barrel of oil...
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,902 Points:1,570,980 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:20:47 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse we need to use more diesel
GAC1Shirt Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,360 Points:747,235 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:20:33 PM Ignore GAC1Shirt Report Abuse Metro must be driving a hybrid. I like driving 80-85 and getting 40mpg, 45 at 70-75. [Edited by: GAC1Shirt at 2/26/2012 11:21:00 PM EST]
carman11 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,308 Points:687,500 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:20:32 PM Ignore carman11 Report Abuse Kmankeith is right. In the 80's diesel fuel was less than regular.
GAC1Shirt Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,360 Points:747,235 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:18:05 PM Ignore GAC1Shirt Report Abuse State and federal taxes are more, high demand for diesel and the variant of jet fuel and heating fuel in winter. Still a better deal due the greater btu rating per gallon vs gasoline/ethanol.
Kmankeith Veteran Author Rhode Island Posts:459 Points:363,555 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:11:29 PM Ignore Kmankeith Report Abuse the real shame is diesel is cheaper to manufacture and needs less refining than standard gas and yet it cost more per gallon. Go figure
MetroSexual Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,004 Points:316,380 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:11:11 PM Ignore MetroSexual Report Abuse At 47 MPG on average, my cars beat diesels hands down. All on regular E10 gasoline. And no, that is not with ecomiling, that is with higher-than-the-speed-limit, stop-and-go driving.
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,285 Points:1,633,945 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:09:29 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse DIESEL PRICES MAY BE THE NEXT THING TO RISE!
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,125 Points:1,879,670 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:07:25 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse We need more diesels
rx7racerca Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,184 Points:1,109,135 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:06:04 PM Ignore rx7racerca Report Abuse Modern diesels are great engines - loads of torque even in small displacements, like VW's 2.0 TDI and older 1.8L TDI. Should appeal to Americans brought up on the torque of big V8s and 6's.
HEBster Champion Author Kentucky Posts:8,768 Points:2,370,025 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:58:38 PM Ignore HEBster Report Abuse We'll see what happens...
RitaVespa Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,956 Points:787,385 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:58:13 PM Ignore RitaVespa Report Abuse Yay!
SpankyMI Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,693 Points:756,255 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:56:06 PM Ignore SpankyMI Report Abuse I still smell diesel exhaust, I'm sure that cant be good.
Jumpmaster82 All-Star Author South Carolina Posts:919 Points:846,810 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:55:34 PM Ignore Jumpmaster82 Report Abuse Notice everyone who has a diesel loves them, everyone who knows nothing about them dislikes them? The ones who drive them know the fuel costs more but they fill up less, so you folks who think diesel is so expensive are clueless to know that driven side by side to your gas powered cars, the guy with the diesel pays far less for fuel than you do. I guess ignorance really is bliss!